Right Hand jockey Shift T120

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drewseventyone
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Right Hand jockey Shift T120

Post by drewseventyone » Sun May 17, 2009 7:58 am

Hi Guys

Firstly as I'm new to the forum, I thought I'd say hi, so Hi. Been reading for a while but not posting.
I've owned a few Triumphs and BSA's over the years, (mostly OIF T140s)
but I'm currently playing with a T120 bobber rat bike thing, That I'm trying to keep rideable whilst modifying a bit......

My question is, has anyone got any thoughts or experiences on Right Hand Jockey shift's , I've only ever had Left Hander's with the clutch on the shifter & I'm having trouble getting my head around the operation of a right hander, I suspect it may be more of a pain in the bum than the coolness factor is worth.

Any opinions appreciated


Cheers Drew
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Post by ausdog » Mon May 18, 2009 5:43 pm

Now I may be wrong but I dont think it would be hard to fab it would need some brackets and such and a cross over but thats not really a lot in the big picture. As for shifting if you can get used to it why not do it.

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Post by Diggerdigzit » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:25 pm

I am with aus dog, I have done it on a 66 Tbird and just fabbed up a crossover bracket, which gives an added bonus to the cool factor of a jockey shift. A J.S. with homemade fabrication = extra cool.
what is this "elek a trick start" you speak of???

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Post by Chucky » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:02 pm

I had a right hand jockey shift on a 72 TR6P....Never again. hill starts are a nightmare.

The best combo I used was a hydraulic clutch conversion from PSP, operated via the left foot, (Right foot operated hydraulic rear brake using harley juice hub). I had a line locker fitted to the shifter so I could engage the clutch, lock it, then put my foot down.

Took a little bit of getting used to but soon became second nature.

I'm pretty certain suicide/jockey shifts are illegal in qld unless the bike was manufactured that way :(

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Post by Diggerdigzit » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:17 pm

Quite possibly, every *#@** thing is illegal here. Apparently side mounted number plates are as well. I had a 1942 WLA with a jockey shift which was able to be registered and of course they were tank mounted shifter, not jockey shift. I can easily put the foot change on and hand clutch in a day to get it registered, or maybe just cross the border into NSW, but then i would need proof of address. Anyways, never did worry too much about such mundane things as laws.
what is this "elek a trick start" you speak of???

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Post by Bearcx » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:33 pm

Sounds like the one Prof has....
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Post by Diggerdigzit » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:53 pm

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb27 ... 1248091040

ok I give up, i had the picture and now it's gone again.
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what is this "elek a trick start" you speak of???

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Post by Diggerdigzit » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:02 pm

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ok here we go.
what is this "elek a trick start" you speak of???

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Post by drewseventyone » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:46 pm

Thanks for all the input

I'm still scratching my head, but as an experiment I tried taking my right hand off the bars every time I shift (its not for me, even if I put a hand clutch on the shifter) as Chucky said, hill starts are a nightmare.
I love the PSP clutch conversion (got one on my T140) but hydraulic's are a bit high tech for the bare as bones style I want.

So I'm back in the planning stage, which involves sitting in the shed lookin at a couple of old Hurst shifters and the bonnet cable off my old XB falcon and tryin to work out the best way to right hand shift this bike without the clutter of linkages.

Thanks again

Cheers

Drew
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Post by Diggerdigzit » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:04 pm

practice makes perfect , they say. But if you really dont want it, thats the cool thing about motorbikes, like a swish suit - you make them to fit.

Steel is our !*$!!.
what is this "elek a trick start" you speak of???

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Post by drewseventyone » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:33 pm

Just an update on this in case anyone is thinking of a right hand shift in the future.
With the rear brake sorted, the engine in a reasonable state of tune & the clutch still on the L/H bar, the R/H hand shift works pretty good, I can even manage a passable hill start.

an added benefit is I seem to have better control of the shift now (a combination of size 12 steel cap work boots and some ankle problems sometimes had me struggling to find neutral)

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Post by Chucky » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:42 pm

:D

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Post by Prof » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:55 pm

Dad used to show off on his u model HD (1200) and sidecar which had the left hand change and left foot clutch (not a suicide) same as the WLA.

He would accelerate, clutch in, throttle off and swing his right hand across to the left gear knob, bang her into the next gear and back across to hit the throttle.

He was quite quick at it. Also used to show off and change gears with his foot! Always loved a challenge!

Any new sidecar passenger (ie virtually every visitor!) suddenly found them selves up in the air as he cruised along a quite a respectable speed with the wheel off the ground! On sharp left handers he used to delight in raising the sidecar wheel over the foot path as he "cut the corner".

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Post by drewseventyone » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:30 am

Thats such a cool pic, I love it !
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